president out in a couple years his legacy will live on. >> part of this is a referendum on trump. they want to beat up on trump, score defeat against this president anyway they can and if they can get susan collins, lisa murkowski or any other republican on board, part of what they can do is score a victory and it would be a big victory if he has to nominate new nominees. >> we are showing finalists, people the president interviewed. top left top right, amy barrett and brett cavanaugh seem to be the finalists and there seems to be a split developing among conservatives that barrett is stronger on being antiabortion and anti-obamacare as we mentioned at the top and cavanaugh is more centrist in their eyes, true, false? >> my former boss rand paul