expense. no wonder they are in favor of mark government high taxes and telling us what today. >> steve: this aligns neatly with the growth and big government. how do you see it? >> we had to find how tax money is wasted. infrastructure projects very much wasted. it's unfair to taxpayers kids ordinary people who work hard just want to pay their taxes and -- >> even when the state does things that appear to be good what they're doing and i discovered this is there subsidizing the payroll a big corporation by subsidizing those who pay low wages.