braun to drain the swamp. >> trish: though he is trying to energize the vase in indiana. one of rally that was in rota crowd there was. lots of enthusiasm. will this make it easier if he is able to get more republicans in these seats? i think so, so he's not confronting that challenge. i'm not going to go there with the democrats but there are some democrats as you said earlier in the program that might be willing to cross. >> kennedy: like joe donnelly, his campaign. at a statistic that he votes with the president 62% of the time. his campaign is saying he's a democrat. >> kennedy: if he wants another democrat to flip and vote for gina haspel, joe donnelly is a good person to go after considering the rally that they had last night, very enthusiastic rally. >> lisa: not even just the rally, the fact that mike braun is going to be a strong