harvard. he's a great gentleman. i think he will go down as truly a great secretary of state. he just left north korea, hedda great meeting with kim jong un, and god along with him really well, really great. he has that kind of a guy. he's really smart but he gets along with people. so i think mike will be in good shape. we'll see what happens. a lot of people are predicting other things. but i have a feeling it's going to work out very well, and i think our country really needs him. he's going to be a great leader. >> jesse: this is pretty high level, kimberly. james clapper, president obama's top intel chief, went over there. madeline albright went over there. mike pompeo goes over there on a secret mission, pretty big. how does the trump administration not get suckered into a deal like previous administrations, the bush and administrations, and make that