>> absolutely. a montra in the bush home is you don't spend any time talking about the big me. so if one got too focused on themselves -- >> neil: i'd never survive in that household, reverend. i don't know how i would do it. >> and i have to say -- when i say they were active, they were in church every week unless a health issue or travel prevented them from being in church. they were in church every week. i imagine the president will continue to be in church as his health allows him. barbara taught sunday school for us. she was a member of women and men that gather every monday to stitch kneelers for the pews in the church. she did this until a few weeks ago. the president early in his attendance was known to serve coffee, help usher. very active members of the church. part of the issue for the church family, they will be