basements and low-lying areas to avoid the aerial bombardment and artillery shelling that's going on every day. these chemicals get down into the basements and the gaskets down into the low ground. it's a deliberate act to kill civilians, women and children. >> harris: is also a very painful way to die. >> it's awful. there is a lot of focus on what the president is going to do and what the united states is going to do and i think the focus also has to be on what happens if we do nothing. if we do nothing that is passively accepting that it can be used around the world end of the world has gone to a much more dangerous place. >> harris: i want to talk about the logistics of using the military because russia is in the way and i had experts tell me that it's a mess because they are near some of the targets we may want to hit. what kind of conversation do we need to have with russia to get their people out of the way and can we do it privately?