build a military base near the russian federation border with ukraine. so doug, if you can walk us through this for a moment, that company supposedly is concord which is in this indictment, building that russian base and being a potential russian contractor for troops according to the reports. >> it's entirely reasonable for everybody to say look, there appear to be significant, you know, contacts and interactions and a nexus between that particular individual, his business dealings you know and the government, but again, not to be a broken record, politically everybody kind of oversells their positions. it's crystal clear that the russian government was involved. i don't agree with that. versus the government wasn't involved at all. i don't agree with that. the truth is somewhere in between in my view. eric: what do you mean in between? you don't think putin ordered this? it's been said this came directly from putin. >> i don't think so. i don't think he directly ordered that, eric. again we will have to study it more. you know, working off the point earlier, you don't declare a ballgame over at halftime.