i had the wrong kinds of thoughts. >> tucker: the inclusion committee excluded you? >> that's they did. that's why i call them the exclusion group. >> tucker: [laughing]. there are so many questions here. did any colleagues approach you and say you are telling some truth here? >> no. either they are true believers or cowered. it's a chilling effect on campuses. can't voice disagreement with some policies without being called a racist, a sexist or satan as he was called. >> tucker: how you can think clearly if conformity is required? >> you can't think. this is against the mission of the university. that's what i was complaining well. >> tucker: if these people had power, a lot of people would