maryland, and then new jersey, and then moved to las vegas. he saw that vegas was the place to be. built this empire himself. i mean, he is an extraordinary entrepreneur, that cannot be discounted, a flawed human being, certainly, according to what the wall street journal is detailing and by the way, that was a great piece in the wall street journal, terrific reporting. neil: he says it's not so he so we don't know the deal. he's the wynn in wynn and without him? >> it's a big, big hole. that's why the stock went down 10%. neil: associated with it. >> wynn, it's the signature, his own signature that is what makes the company-- is the company's icon. so-- >> does it have any reverberati reverberating effect beyond his company? didn't look like it did. >> vegas, watch an old version of the godfather, i'm sure you've memorized by now. neil: that's fine. >> no apersians, vegas has been