much. we know she believes in gun ownership with background checks. she says we need strong law enforcement at border. would she be a threat to president trump? here to discuss, director urban development at turning pointed u.s.a. candace owen and leo you are well. candace, do you think oprah is a threat? >> i think she is a natural progression in the game of identification politics. i do not deem her a threat. jesse: she would be a self-funder. she has extremely high favor built ratings. the media would love her and propel her candidacy pretty aggressively. that has to be an advantage. >> it was similar to what