a deal in the past. >> i was going to say, don't they run the risk of being too obstructionist? that the american people want to see some things get done, and if you just dig your feet in the whole time, you won't have anything to brag about either? >> exactly. maybe on tax reform, that was something a little easier for democrats to do because they've always been opposed to tax cuts for the highest income bracket, so it was consistent with past messaging, but if they take a stand against something that would be a democratic policy, like a debt driven spending bill on infrastructure projects, that could backfire because it would be easy for republicans to pull, quote, from top democrats in the past -- to pull votes from top democrats in the past saying they are only opposed now because they want to obstruct republican agenda and obstruct the president. it would be more difficult for democrats to make that argument credibly than it was for something like tax reform. >> shifting gears, mar-a-lago, it is warm, it is sunny, there's