francisco along with juan williams. the co-host of the five. all right, fine. can't say anything more without offending someone. >> i thought you actually hit the right point, which is from the perspective of the women, there is no ineld no indication here despite what lisa bloom may have been up to that they were in fact fabricating. their integrity is not the n. question here. what's in question is whether or not lisa bloom as a lawyer was really overstepping bounds either in terms of doing business with donors or potentially willing to take money from tabloids in exchange for the stories coming from the women. but, in terms of the charges, the women were lobbying -- levying against donald trump. there is no indication here that they were making things up, laura. >> laura: march meet, your reaction to this.