heights communications, and she joins us. thanks for coming on. >> things were happening me. >> tucker: the last thing i want to do is put myself in a position to defend al franken, who i know well. he's kind of creepy. this is all plausible, as far as i'm concerned, but i'm struck by a couple of things, and one is the pivot that the entire i democratic conference and the senate seems to have made. a year and a half ago, they were defending hillary clinton, who everyone knows attacked women who accused her husband of sexual harassment and assault, and today they are saying, on the basis of anonymous accusations, that they can't o support al franken. where were they a year and aat half ago? >> a couple things wrong with that statement. first, i think we could agree that it would be better off if the women were in charge. >> tucker: really? because i see a lot of women covering for sexual harassment here. i don't think that is true at all. it depends on the woman. >> so i think -- here is what is wrong with that statement. one is that we are, again, in a different moment.