network, one of our makeup artists said, this is happening at the post office, this is happening at the sanitation department. it's everywhere but people are paying attention to it in certain industries because it is more interesting. but i would say this, the people who committed these acts still work at these networks. these women have been afraid to come forward, they need to know that they can. my husband said to me at the time, why haven't more women come out another networks? i said, i don't know, i hope it comes to that, i hope they feel like they'll be heard and they come out. but those men still work there. i think -- i'm sure their names will come out.l it's not my place to name them because i wasn't the one assaulted. >> tucker: i'm fully aware of what you are talking about. thank you for that. that was prescient, to put it mildly. wonder the people happiest about matt lauer's departure could be at hillary clinton and her supporters. we'll explain why in just a a moment. ♪