version. my next guest follows this way too closely. grover norquist president of americans for tax reform. i joke about that because you know the ins and outs of these plans. answer this question. we've been challenging others on the political level here. you can tell us. you look at these numbers. does every single american get a tax cut? at least under the house plan. >> the answer is almost certainly yes. what we're looking at over the next 10 years is every income group certainly does. if you've organized your entire life around tax deductions, you may have to reorganize your investments. but rates come down for everybody and you are going to see if you're one of the half of the population that's in the stock market you'll see stocks go up rather dramatically in addition to lower income taxes. but every -- bottom 10%, top