>> neil: all right. another gain in the markets today. the dow up 57 3/4 points. a lot of people look at that, what's happening since the election last year and say man, oh, man, the wind is at our back. enter robert proctor. he said we have a good wave going here but it's about to go the other way because of this, because of debt. that's something that he focuses on more closely. he's extremely worried. in an exclusive interview earlier with me today, he told me how worried. >> positive social mood helps the stock market go and economy expand but makes debtors feel optimistic. you know, pension funds and insurance companies today have all kinds of debt that i wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. they're chasing yield and trying to get the best they can.