hillary clinton, though senator sanders tried to downplay his role. >> would you say he had no official capacity, what do you mean by that? >> he was a volunteer on the campaign and a volunteer member of an advisory council. >> papadopoulos was photographed with candidate trump what counted him as an advisor and a fine man during board meetings at "the washington post." today's police as the advisor had several interactions with russians and has been cooperating with the special counsel since july, at the bottom line is there is still no evidence from everything that happened today that there was any collusion in the last election, though the big mystery tonight is why papadopoulos lied to the fbi if he had nothing to hide. >> martha: great question, thank you very much. david bossie, former deputy campaign manager, also fox news contributor, good evening to you. thanks for being here as always. i guess to jump forward for a moment, the papadopoulos issue, you were on the campaign when he