what's what the defense wants to do. they want to show this was just a horrible incident accident. steve: it was horrible. kate steinle's father was there and said he held his daughter in his arms and her last words were "help me, dad." ainsley: pointed to her back saying she had been shot in the back and died in her father's arms. steve: when he ran for president donald trump's big stands was look at this kate steinle case. good case for doing something about immigration in this country. you know, those great big panels, the test panels of the new wall, they had them up near san diego. and there was annual msnbc reporter doing a report on just those. brian: these were proto types of these walls which will eventually go up. if we can finally get financing for them. at which time when doing it, you see this reporter, jacob soberoff noticed something happening by that wall. ainsley: he asked. are we going to watch the video? listen to this.