>> the winners are probably the middle class, they will end up paying less tax and it will be easier for them to pay it. it's a simpler, fairer system, about 90% of households right now i think actually hire somebody else to do their taxes. if that's families paying people, ordinary folks are paying somebody else to do their taxes and we let them pay less and pay it themselves, and i thk that's a big win for people. i think that the economy writ large as the other big winner here. that's what's driving the corporate tax, hope we get a chance to talk about that. a big piece of this, central piece of this is the corporate tax rate reduction. we do that to try and drive productivity, drive investment in america, drive economic growth, economic development. i think the two winners here are individual families, ordinary americans, what some people call the middle class, everybody considers themselves to be middle class and the overall economy because we are sort of revitalizing the american machine. >> tucker: who are the losers? >> i think right now if you