compared to this bill, and he voted for that. so along comes this and he says this isn't full repeal and what we promised. it is more of what they promised than the bill he just voted for is and now he is against it. so i'm thinking if i'm a leader trying to convince this guy on a vote like that, i don't know how you do that. most of the time when you're dealing with these politicians and figure out why they aren't with you, there is some rational reason for it. they say at home this is just poison for me. political suicide. you can understand that. or this hurts my state. well, you might be able to sweet en it for that state. but when somebody's argument doesn't make any sense at all, i don't know how you do it. i'm not sure they can. this looks pretty bleak. >> shannon: senator cassidy, a doctor like senator paul, has said that the door is open and apparently he has reached out. there haven't been conversations with cassidy was talking with bill last week. we wonder if they've had

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