ashore to the time give a sense of how bad it was. >> pleasure to be on your show. generally the first four or 48 hours is going to be critical to get what we call ground zero. if you remember, 1992 hurricane andrew, came through the homestead and we couldn't get into the homestead for about 12, 18 hours but once we did we knew it was a catastrophic event. in this particular instance is very different because, if you remember, andrew in 1992 was mostly wind damage and it appears from everything that i've seen that this will be mostly flooding which in many cases is actually worse. leeland: flooding, for sure. were hearing about 30 or 40 inches of rain in places, rockport specifically his background, victoria, texas is also flat and they've had flooding and that wasn't even with a hurricane -- how much