the wto, all these years later, it has been a real positive for the united states and united states workers? >> i think there is a net positive in a china that behaves according to expectations, and we have to be strong, but we have to be balanced. >> laura: china just got jacked up in those eight years. i don't understand how you can say, like, from 2009 2009 to 2e didn't see a market increase in the power and strength of china. now we need trying to help us, like, thanks for during some sanctions. but they are continuing oil shipments in their continuing banking and banks and north korea, a huge help to the north korean economy. china could stop this tonight if it wanted to commit yes or no? >> not necessarily. not necessarily. i think you are giving china too much credit. they china's want to this, they want to know that they are the and all mbl. can't have too much credence by