you can't say things aloud like that. >> a lot of people don't understand how foreign policy works. we don't have friends. we have interests. we have temporary alliances. that's how global affairs works now. that's how it is always work. that's how we'll continue to work for many decades if not centuries. things change. unfortunately there are areas where haptic collaborate and cooperate -- that doesn't mean, that we can be honest about the fact that they did what they did in 2016. i believe that as former intelligence officer, the quick to hold them to account. but our relationship with them is complicated. always has been. for decades. >> tucker: the russians have been running anti-american propaganda efforts for 100 year years. they invented the idea that aids was created in a laboratory, we know this. i hate to say it because we are in the middle of a witch hunt. this is not a defense of the