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precedent? >> there is no precedent. it's a grant for argument. more broadly, if the precedent of first amendment rights, free expression. the ability of america to not be read govind to deliver messages that they don't believe in. i sure hope that sets a precedent. have in mind here. the couple ended up with a cake with a rainbow design. you can imagine several designs with a consciences cake artist would say, you are forcing me to deliver a message that i do not believe in and i don't want to endorse. >> julie: right. >> how is that congruent with free-speech principles? >> julie: is a private business owner you have choices about your own personal business. thank you so much for talking with us we appreciate you both coming on. >> thank you. >> julie: we are awaiting the congressional budget office on the send a bill to repeal and replace obamacare. as senate republicans scramble

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