obamacare has failed and county after county, they are left with no choices, rising premiums and skyrocketing deductibles. obamacare is dead. >> martha: joining me now karl rove, fox news political contributor, he served as a senior advisor to president george w. bush. and matt bennett, could have both of the herd here today. i want to put up a picture of senator schumer on he wrote on the end of the word mean, i don't know if we have it to point out that it's even meaner than the first round that happened in the house. what you think about all this? >> i thought it was unusual for president obama to speak out in this way. is it mean to tell people you can keep your plan if you like your plan, and 14 million people lose their plan? is it mean to say you could keep your doctor and millions of americans lost their doctor? is it me to say your premiums are going to go down $2500 and it said the premiums have been under obamacare rising in double-digit rates in most places?