patrick mullen. now that sessions is finally testify, has his view changed, he joins us now, thanks for coming on. i don't expect you to agree with the attorney general's policies or his core beliefs as a senator, but i think we can both agree that when the former fbi director comes into open testimony and suggests as he did that sessions had some sort of untoward ties to russia or had done something wrong that he couldn't expand publicly and therefore had to recuse himself from the investigation, that's impugning a man's character without being specific, therefore unfair and it's awful to do that. >> i think you are putting a little bit of a spin on it, you said the attorney general did recuse himself because of his conflicts in the area so that's all the fbi director was saying. he actually said the opposite. >> excuse me, i appreciate that there was a bit of an error left there of impropriety and i agree with you is what i'm trying to say. we went there were other reasons, i think i'm quoting,