growing. but still encourage people to stay in the workforce. it encourages employers to hire more people. >> thank you so much. >> steve: we don't have time for your thoughts on this but i want to thank eric for joining us. i hope we can have you back. there's so much to talk about is central to everything. >> always a pleasure. i'm glad you're addressing it. >> steve: thank you eric, it's good to see you. swamp lunch, when we comes back takes aim at the epa green lobby. next i'll introduce you to a true education revolution or which is changing the way her children learn.