london, imagine if people in london or great britain had gone after mayor giuliani after 9/11. >> greg: we would flip out. we would. >> juan: gee whiz, no problem here. if they had guns they would have done a better job of stopping this. everybody said wait a minute, if those terrace had guns, they would have killed more people. the police got them within 8 minutes, greg. >> jesse: the billy club was fighting the guy off for a long time. he would have been able to catch him if he had a gun. >> greg: you know what stopped them? guns, juan. >> juan: if they didn't have guns -- -- >> greg: no side can have guns, everybody works. >> juan: keep them out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. >> kimberly: can our law enforcement here keep their gun guns? >> juan: in this country, it would make sense.