2013. at 26 million people will be enrolled this year. the next year they said 24, they repeated that in march of 2015 and in march of last year, they said 15 million people will be enrolled in obamacare as a result of the law. what was the reality? the actual number is just over 10 million. they overestimated by 16 million or 260% in 2013, 14 million in 2014 or 2015 or 240% more and one year ago, they overestimated by 150%, they were half again as many people estimated to be on obamacare as are actually on obamacare. nick mulvaney is absolutely right, why trust their numbers? >> martha: they tend to look at taking away the program would do. >> excellent point. makes insurance cheaper and providing more options is likely to generate more people signing