it simply killing them. killing terrorists isn't meddling in a country, it isn't a way to win a war. it is a global version of taking out the trash. if there's a leak in the apartment above you in that persons away, you have every right to go in there and pled that lake and that's what we have to do. we have to lift restrictions on finding a look at it in a different way, cyber, biochemical, everything. nuclear and we have to treat it as though it's never going to end until as many as possible have been given a chance. >> dana: doesn't have an experience on the battlefield with al qaeda, but what they can do have a franchise, they recruit, and they train and provide contacts and money. i've also heard, it possible that he is using the sun to fund his operation while he fights isis. >> kimberly: 's family and his father was the head of a terrorist dynasty.