religious executive order. people in the evangelical community said it got watered down and the trump family may not understood its aims or could be construed to be discriminatory and negative. what did you make of the order? >> i was in the rose garden and discussing this for weeks with the administration. they've learned how every move they make is being challenged in the courts and they've grown wise and taken a strategic approach. even so, most people don't realize portions of that executive order have already been challenged in court by atheist organizations. this executive order is one of many examples. look at the selections he has made to the supreme court and the lower courts. look at what he has done on the repeal and replace of obamacare. pro-life provisions in there, defunding of planned parenthood and his speech matters. the rhetoric is not just pure rhetoric. there is a record that he is amassing to back that up and