rival centers of power all whom think their principal job, job one, is to make sure that the intelligence committee and in some cases nsa don't violate the law. there's the justice department thinks that's their job, the general counsel and nsa think that's their job.ep there's a privacy officer in nsa who think's that their job. two intelligence committees who think that's their job. the fisa court thinks it's their job to write unheard on nsa. all of them are independent. all of them are going to make their careers.s. they can find a violation of the law and all of them conduct investigations at various times. it's not perfect. but probably the most investigated agency that i can think of. >> tucker: when james clapper was running american intelligence went before congress and said we're not spying on any american citizens, and it turned out he was lying. did that shock you? >> yeah, i think he either
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