normally do not vote. and he did. and he won. joining us right now co-authors of brand new book companies great it's called "shattered" inside hillary clinton's doomed campaign. this book is chow chock full of juicy tidbits who did you talk to. >> we talked to more than 100 insiders in the campaign. it's coming from inside. it's not someone -- some speculation from the outside. we talked to everyone from the highest levels down to the lowest. and, you know, this is the first kind of inside account of what really happened that night in her hotel room at the peninsula hotel here in new york. and so we really kind of tell that story moment by moment. >> you do. and there are two moments, jonathan, that people are unfamiliar with where barack obama phoned hillary not once but twice. >> that's right. so on election night, she and her team were much watching the results.

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