animosity was as high as it was from the obama to trump and vice versa, and with susan rice's old history on benghazi. the fact that she wassen going to get confirmed. she was never going to be confirmed. that's why they put her at the national security council. all of this adds up to an murky scenario. we need to know more information. i don't think it stops at susan rice. focusing on rice may be the wrong path way. >> sean: but standard operating procedure according to every single intel source i have would require that if it was incidental that minimumization occur. they don't reveal the name of the american. they don't unmask the american. certainly you don't leak the name, leak the intelligence which, by the way, is raw intelligence, otherwise you are violating any sense of privacy. you used the term early on. that would make america a policed state. correct? >> that's a felony. there is a written record.