>> shepard: to put a point on it, on that day when the fbi had the hearing, director comey did, director nunes said you've cast a black cloud over this white house with this investigation. the black cloud that will be there until it's resolved. you need to get it resolved. the next day came this weapon of mass distraction. this -- under cloak of darkness meeting on the white house campus and now the semantics games are being played. these are not actions about people being transparent about their dealings. >> i'm not going to go as far as you are on that, shep. i'm pointing out facts. the facts are somewhat troubling. even today where donald trump sends out a tweet that says that flynn should get immunity and again you heard sean spicer, well, no, that's not what he said. he said he should testify and