state of massachusetts to make it a sanctuary state and there was was a sheriff somewhere who felt like subverting those laws -- doing what you are doing to the feds but to the state of massachusetts -- would you support his right to do that? >> i would not support that because under our belt, we would prohibit sheriff's with collaborating with i.c.e. agents. that's part of the bill. >> tucker: you are prohibiting people doing the law the ignorg the law but he won't make the same people exercising their freedom of conscience? >> law officials the other day have to follow state laws and when we are saying is how is the best use of state resources? is it the best use of taxpayer resources to target hard-working families in their communities by giving back and providing a benefit to the commonwealth of massachusetts? >> tucker: i know your state law. you are from acton down in