surprised by the question or the commenting by bill o'reilly saying, putin is a killer. we know that, but america has done business with very bad people, for an extended period of time. when i was on the intelligence committee, i met with putin, i met with qaddafi, i met with assad. in some way, at least the last three, qaddafi, assad, and karima, helped us achieve our national security interests. under the obama administration, dealt with some very ugly groups and individuals, dealing with the muslim brotherhood of egypt to move our agenda for. >> martha: that's not what he said. he didn't say that. he didn't say we dealt with a lot of bad -- and that's what you have to do. we are not so innocent either. that's what got people upset. he was making an equivalency. >> he may have been referring to our relationship with these kind of individuals, the muslim brotherhood, the libyan islamic fighting group in libya.