americans, than those of the americans who want to have an ability to use our democracy to fight for a better world. >> tucker: that seems a littlese bit of a stretch. are you against putting gates on the national parks? that divides the country. putting gates at national parks?ke >> tucker: you are against the board of all because you are against dividing barriers between places. >> there aren't gates on our national parks. >> tucker: sure, there are. if you want to drive into a yellowstone, you have to drive ksrough a gate and pay the money. in other words, protecting the environment sometimes means walling it off from too many people. >> not really. there is no gate around yellowstone. there is a fence but you have to pay a $20 fee. there is not a wall around it. just like there shouldn't be a wall around our country. have you seen yellowstone? >> tucker: yeah, i was just there. my question is, it's a little more specific than that. we can have a debate about walls and xenophobia and all that, but