gave us in eight years. why would republicans were supposed believe in limited government and balanced budgets, why would they support that. >> it's a vehicle, open -- it opens the gate to repeal obamacare. many of us i think are sitting here saying if it can be $9.7 trillion, why can't it be any number we make it? what we constantly hear is the other body won't vote for that. to which i would say, if this is just a number, just a vehicle, if they won't vote for it now, what are they going to do when it is real? >> sean: i might have read this wrong but do we have the majority? >> hopefully this is building the pressure but i don't think any person here is going to vote for a real budget. we all want a balanced budget. probably everybody here is either a sponsor of a balanced budget amendment. that's of the constitution, fiscal issues is what brought every person sitting here to this place. >> sean: you are the founder,