provisions and you have to be ready. now people who live in coastal areas understand that. there's another threat, this threat we're talking about. why can we not figure out a way -- they used to tell us duck and cover. it made us feel better when i was a kid in school. it didn't help us much. >> there was a public information campaign. we were honest with people that we need to be prepared for this. frankly, somebody asked me the other day if this later paris attack was a game changer. it's not a game changer, it's a channel changer. this was playing on the other channel, we weren't pay attention. you can make a case that the bush administration, which i was part of, overreacted to 9/11. you can make a case that this administration is under reacting to the long-term threat. people need to be -- they need to understand, they will be responsible for their own safety and security for a period of time until the government can re-establish order. if there's a case of chemical attacks or one of these major incidents. >> especially in a highly populated area, which is where they like to go. >> exactly.