same way i was a reporter when i interviewed charles manson. >> i bet you, geraldo, knowing the drug problem in the u.s., would you tip off authorities. >> i would not. i would not. >> you would not? >> you would be asking me to be a traitor to my profession. so look at john mill. the commissioner of the police now in charge of intelligence. great reporter, interviewed osama bin laden in 1999, the year after bin laden blew up the african embassy. he didn't tell the cia what the location of the world's most-dangerous man was. that is not our job. >> but you -- look. >> you can -- >> that is not about that. >> he's not a journalist. he's an actor. he sucks up to every two-bit dictator, it seems in the world. >> he likes hugo chavez.