rubio or trump? >> this is very much the problem. when it suits ted politically, he's on one side. the problem that we have here, very clearly -- >> that's unfair. have you looked at his website? go to ted cruz.org. what do you see? you can't just make it up. i read the entire plan. have you read it? >> don't change the subject. here it is. it's very clear. we've all seen the courtroom dramas where they say, are you lying then or lying now? if ted wants to go with the idea this was a poison pill amendment that's fine. all he has to confess to is that he lied back then when he -- >> he doesn't have to confess to a thing. what are you talking about? >> when he spoke to all those groups and said he wanted to build a path, if the goal was to get it to pass, either ted lied then or lying now. any supporter has to come to grips with the fear that if he lied then, he may be lying now. >> iwhat i want -- here's the
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