when they chopped off his head, that's a whole different level. and i would absolutely bring back interrogation. >> here with reaction is the senior editor for national review, jonah goldberg from the ahmadiyya muslim community folk spokesman and fox news contributor monica crowley. we waterboarded three people. now, we didn't get usama bin laden because it was the waterboarding of khalid sheikh mohammed, mr. o rodriguez who was there at the time it happened without waterboarding. why is this controversial in light of what isis does, kills, beheads and burns? >> if anyone wonders why donald trump is still leading the pack, it's those kind of comments. how the american people want the country to behave. and whether you agree with him or not on these points, what trump is exhibiting is leadership. strong, decisive leadership.