have a blood bath. this carnage out there and especially among low income minority males. and they may have the guns and it extends then, of course, into the household where you have an increased risk of death if there is a gun present in the household. >> why are there so many guns in the minority communities, juan? >> i think people buy illegal guns, again could be for gang activity. i think that's a lot of it. >> criminals that are trafficking. so, juan, hire is the question. if the united states e. pasts all kinds of gun laws that restrict people buying guns, purchasing guns, do you really believe that criminals are going to stop buying guns, juan? do you really believe that? >> no. here is the thing. >> as long as you are honest about it. >> let me give you an answer though, please. >> let me get into this. >> i think there is a real answer to, this bill. it doesn't lie on criminals becoming good guys. it is to close all of the