their mind. if she sees the tape she's talking about, which i have and you have, it's a pretty bad tape. >> the only reason the mainstream media has been covering the planned parenthood videos is because of this controversy, because they've tried to go to carly fiorina about it, which is actually forcing people to recognize that the videos do exist and you can watch them. >> where did you see it? i'm curious. i want to know. >> there were groups releasing videos, and i saw that video, and it wasn't a reenactment. >> i think what she was describing was she saw the video where the woman was describing what she was seeing. >> she created a proof of life moment, essentially, by telling people, hey, this is out there, this is what exists, talking about it to a huge audience, national audience paying attention to the issues, and it put it right on the forefront. >> i have to be honest with you. have you seen the planned parenthood video? >> i've seen some videos. i haven't seen that one. >> it specifically describes something you haven't really