john xiii asked this question of a woman, a young woman. so he said, so the role of women and the role of women in general needs to be discerned properly, needs to be examined properly to make sure that there is a much more active -- these were his words -- much more active participation in the life of the church. i thought it was very interesting. it's a whole other theme that was not touched on in washington, d.c. or new york, and i think it's just a preparation of more to come. >> wow. monsignor, how did you hear this message and did you expect this message? >> i d biid, bill. you know, the truth is, in my parrish and probably father john's as well, the pope couldn't volunteer for those who are there for us. the women are central to the life of the church and this holy father is recognizing there are so many women out there who are catholic who feel sometimes