on the campaign trail. in terms of how we deal with it. >> well, we all want the tax system straightened out. we have 3300 earmarks or loopholes in it. listen to someone call someone stupid is just funnier. it grabs our attention more. >> that's fine up to now. but then people want to know okay, what are we going to do about the stupid tax code? calling it a name ain't going to get rid of it. how do you get rid of the thick? >> you may have fixed it. instead of calling your opponents stupid calling the tax code stupid. you rolled both into one. steve, good to he see you. >> good to he so you, greta. thank you. >> 15 presidential hopefuls descending on the ronald reagan presidential library in beautiful simi valley, california. front runner donald trump is holding on to his lead as other candidates centrallable to -- scramble to keep up. carl cameron live in the reagan library. karl? >> hi there, greta. welcome to the spin room. the big debate with 111 candidates on it would be a record-breaker. it's going to be crowded and it's going to be noisy.