refugees who were stopped at the border in hungary today along the serbia/hungary border. thousands of them stopped, and they had the water cannons firing and tear gas because this has gotten to be an out of control problem for europe. they're not on the same page of this. they're building fences fast and furious throughout the european community here. the irony of that is the whole idea of the european union was to take all the fences down, this would be one large homogeneous block. it is anything but and the prospect of millions of syrian refugees trying to find haven in any one of these countries has now fallen on deaf ears and angry military response. the former spokesman for the u.n., rick grinnell. rick, this is a mess. we're getting word that john kerr ky has indicated they're looking at talks with russia. he's indicated in the past this is something getting a little help from russia.