isil and sunni and shia that everybody else that has been around politics for all these years knows? probably not. >> look, i think that's right. >> i would argue that the first big thing that he went after, which was the toughest problem washington faces, which is immigration, is a very, very thorny issue. his plan for dealing with immigration was a very, very smart, sophisticated plan. obviously people concentrate on, you know, building the wall and they make fun of that and whatever, but everything else in terms of internal enforcement and the touchback provisions, all of the stuff that the media has ridiculed him about, they're wrong. >> i agree with you entirely. it is a serious plan. people can have disagreements about it. but it's a serious plan. national review said so, mark kerkorian, lots of people said so. he does not talk about it with nearly the level of seriousness that's on the page. he talks about how we'll just let the terrific ones back in
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