abuse, out of wedlock births, lawlessness, selling body parts by planned parenthood. there is a spiritual component that the president has to at least acknowledge during this stage. >> i agree with you, if they're focusing on leadership or economic might versus spirituality or the culture war -- >> i think that is exactly why you're seeing such a large group gravitate towards trump. they believe he has the leadership to do that and they're willing to delegate the responsibility for spiritual renewal that our nation needs for -- >> this is a speech change -- we have been doing this for a long time. there is always that push to make sure as you point out that some of the root causes of evil in america have to be addressed at the cultural level by our politicians. >> that is right. and we have a president right now who is not willing to acknowledge and address that spiritual component of our nation's ills.